The New Crime Scene: Don't F*ck With Cats Joins CC20 Lineup

  • By Website Editor
  • 05 Mar, 2020

The trio of citizen detectives discuss their new project and life since the hit Netflix series

In late 2019, Netflix shook the true crime community with its acclaimed docuseries Don’t F*ck With Cats: Hunting an Internet Killer. If the title alone caused a stir, then the show itself caused a hurricane. As one reviewer put it, “Come for the title, stay for the crazy.”

The content is, indeed, crazy and difficult to watch. The docuseries covers the case of aspiring model Luka Magnotta. The Canadian man anonymously uploaded a graphic video in which he - I’ll spare you the heart-wrenching details - kills a kitten. Over the next two years, Magnotta continued to upload similar videos showing an ever-escalating pattern of violence toward animals. The videos caught the attention of internet sleuths across the globe and soon a dedicated group came together in an attempt to identify and track down the kitten killer before he escalated to murder.

The leaders of the group (and de facto stars of the docuseries) were Deanna Thompson (who used the screen name Baudi Moovan during their investigation for privacy purposes) and John Green (pseudonym). Their collective dedication and resourcefulness (honestly, you have to watch the doc to believe some of the ways they found clues in the videos) in identifying Magnotta and bringing him to justice plays out over the course of the three-part series. Along the way, they met German expatriate Muervet Douglas, a fellow citizen detective also following the case. “We brought Muervet into the group,” says Thompson, “which is huge because we were very strict about who we brought into our circle.”

It is a stunning and inspiring display of the power of the citizen detective and the vast amount of the information at their fingertips. The group tracked Magnotta to Toronto, then to Montreal. They notified authorities in both cities, but investigators were either limited by protocol or an ability to take the report seriously.

“The detective we worked with in Toronto was initially more interested in trying to figure out who I was instead of the person posting the videos,” says Green. Although that detective eventually came to understand the gravity of the situation, authorities in Montreal were less welcoming. “We notified them that Magnotta was in Montreal just weeks before the murder,” says Green.

You read that right: murder.

In May 2012, Magnotta uploaded a stomach-churning video of his brutal murder and dismemberment of Chinese exchange student Jun Lin. Magnotta was eventually apprehended in Berlin and extradited to Canada, where he was convicted of murder and sentenced to life in prison.

It’s cold comfort for Thompson, Green, and Douglas. “In Toronto, we had the support of law enforcement, but Montreal was a different story,” laments Thompson. “We wondered if we should fly there and talk to them in person. This was three months before murder and we knew it was coming.” Green expresses the same frustration. “All we wanted them to do was knock on his door, even just to do a welfare check,” he says. “Maybe it would have shaken him up or scared him to the point that he abandoned his plan to kill.

Although they were relieved to see Magnotta face justice, Douglas recognized the unique opportunity the trio had created. “We realized that we were pretty good at this kind of work,” she says. Together they created the Animal Beta Project. Their website describes the mission and purpose of the organization:

"We seek out individuals that have harmed an animal where the act or aftermath was captured digitally. We search for abusers and turn over evidence to the proper authorities in the correct jurisdiction. We have a very specific set of criteria when we are looking for cases. We do not have “boots on the ground” and unfortunately are no help to animals where there is no digital evidence to be seen. We do not take donations, or charge any money for investigations."

Since its inception, the ABP has investigated dozens of cases of animal abuse across the globe. Most notably, the group assisted in solving a case in Houston, TX which involved “crush fetish” videos submitted to the site. “These videos involve animal abuse, but there are underlying tones of child abuse, violence, mutilation, and other criminal activity,” explains Thompson.

As any good citizen sleuth knows, animal cruelty is a hallmark of violent offenders, and the group wanted to stop the perpetrators before they moved on to human targets. “Muervet identified the producers within 48 hours,” Thompson says proudly. The crush video producers were eventually convicted and sentenced. “It was a landmark case,” Thompson says. “It was the first federal conviction of a crush case.”

Green predicts a rise in similar cases in the future. “The internet is the new crime scene,” he says. “We’re seeing Facebook Live videos in which people are murdered, recordings of animal abuse and other acts of violence. These videos become crime scenes that provide critical information to investigators.”

However, they are careful to set clear and firm boundaries about their activities. “We don’t investigate,” says Green. “We identify the perpetrators, collect all the information we can, and turn it over to the authorities.” Over time, they have honed the process into an effective art form. Green explains, “We call the jurisdiction, tell them who we are, and ask for a contact. Then we send a one-page PDF with a summary of the information we’ve collected and usually within about an hour we receive a call from the investigators.”

CrimeCon 2020

We have two different sessions planned with the group at CrimeCon 2020.

The first session will focus on the Netflix series and Magnotta case. “[It] will basically cover the stuff that was left out of the docuseries,” explains Thompson. “We will present some critical evidence and plenty of behind-the-scenes information. If Netflix had used all the content we filmed, they would have needed 36 episodes.”

In their second session, Thompson, Douglas, and Green will focus on their work with the Animal Beta Project. The trio will be joined by a criminal behavior analyst to talk about the bigger picture of animal abuse and its implications for violence against humans. “If there’s evidence that an offender is beating their dog, it’s very likely that they’re also beating their children or spouse,” explains Douglas. “It’s hard but necessary to talk about in order to shine a light on these warning signs.” We hope to help educate thousands of new people about the warning signs and also provide some practical advice if they ever become aware of this happening with someone they know.

While they’re not setting out to create a global army of digital detectives, the group will issue a thought-provoking call to action: “If you come across one of these videos, don’t report it to the site administrators,” Green advises. It sounds counterintuitive, but remember that the videos are key pieces of evidence that could lead to a killer. “Our knee-jerk reaction is to report it and have it taken away so we don’t have to see it, but once it’s gone, it’s of no use to investigators. Leave the video and notify authorities instead.”


By David Jones November 28, 2024
Breaking News! CrimeCon UK is coming to Manchester in 2025!
By David Jones - Brand Manager September 30, 2024

CrimeCon Returns to London on 7th and 8th June 2025: A Must-Attend Event for True Crime Enthusiasts

Exciting news for true crime aficionados – CrimeCon is making its much-anticipated return to London on 7th and 8th June 2025! As the biggest UK event for those with a passion for the true crime genre, this is an unmissable opportunity to immerse yourself in the world of crime, justice, and investigation, all set in the heart of the UK capital.

CrimeCon UK has built a reputation as the ultimate true crime experience, where enthusiasts, experts, educators and professionals come together to explore high-profile cases, delve into forensic science, and hear from those at the forefront of criminal investigation. 2025 promises to be the best event yet - being more captivating than ever before.

What to Expect at CrimeCon 2025

Building on the enormous success of past years, CrimeCon London 2025 will once again offer attendees exclusive access to leading criminal experts, investigative journalists, detectives, and true crime content creators. With a packed schedule of live panels, interactive discussions, and real-life case studies, this year's event is guaranteed to leave attendees with insights into some of the most talked-about cases and topical true crime themes. Not only this, CrimeCon UK puts victims and advocacy for justice at the heart of the event - making sure that CrimeCon is a platform for every story that needs to be told.

Here's a glimpse of what awaits attendees at CrimeCon 2025:

  • Exclusive Interviews and Case Debriefs: Hear directly from those involved in some of the UK’s most intriguing and infamous criminal cases, hearing from those that were directly impacted by criminality.
  • Meet Your Favorite True Crime Content Creators: The digital world has revolutionised the true crime genre, and CrimeCon will be bringing top content creators together to discuss their platforms, methods, and deep dives into unsolved mysteries.
  • Interactive Exhibits and Forensic Workshops: Put your sleuthing skills to the test as you take part in immersive activities, which have, in the past, included forensic analysis and criminal profiling.
  • Q&A Sessions with Experts: Get the chance to ask burning questions to investigators, criminologists, and legal professionals.

Who Should Attend?

Whether you're a die-hard true crime fan, a criminal justice professional, or just someone curious about the world of crime-solving, CrimeCon is perfect for you. The event brings together a diverse community of people who share a passion for exploring the darker side of humanity while discussing critical issues of justice and victim advocacy.

For those already familiar with popular crime podcasts, books, and documentaries, this is your chance to engage with the experts and learn more about the complexities behind these stories. CrimeCon offers an unparalleled opportunity to connect with like-minded individuals in a friendly, inclusive atmosphere.

Secure Your Spot

Tickets for CrimeCon London 2025 are expected to sell out fast, so be sure to grab yours soon. Various ticket packages are be available, offering different levels of access, from basic admission to VIP and Platinum experiences, where you can enjoy perks such as exclusive sessions with speakers, early access to certain events and enhanced event benefits. 

To find out more and to book your tickets, click here. Don't miss out on being part of the most thrilling true crime event of the year!

By David Jones February 5, 2024

Now is your chance to ensure your favourite true crime content from 2023 is recognised in the TCAs!

VIEWERS' CHOICE:  Whether it's your favourite series, documentary film or influencer - make sure you submit your thoughts on your favourite on-screen true crime content today! Remember - only content released in 2023 is eligible and will be counted.

LISTENERS' CHOICE:   All True Crime podcasts (that released content that is available in the UK during 2023) are eligible to be nominated so be sure that your go-to true crime podcast is recognised!

READERS' CHOICE:   Which true crime book caught your attention in 2023? As long as it was first published last year then it's eligible to be nominated, so cast your vote today!

Voting is now open and closes on 31st March 2024.  Those with the most votes will be recognised and awarded at the True Crime Awards which is scheduled to take place on 25th April 2024.

VOTE NOW!

By daviduk October 18, 2023
THE BIG SCOTTISH BOOK CLUB
SERIES 5 EPISODE 2
AVAILABLE NOW

Damian Barr is joined by Shetland and Vera author Ann Cleeves to discuss her new novel, The Raging Storm. Lauren Lyle, star of the series Karen Pirie, reveals how she brings the Val McDermid character to life, and, on the 30th anniversary of Trainspotting, Irvine Welsh talks about the ITV crime series and his latest novel, The Long Knives. True crime podcasters (and our very own Nancy Baughen)  rate Truman Capote classic In Cold Blood, and crime readers at the Shetland Noir Festival in Lerwick recommend their favourite reads.

If you'd like to catch up and watch this incredible episode of The Big Scottish Book Club, click here. 
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